SOPHIA NIGRO APRIL 8, 1980 These are notes taken during an interview with Sophia Nigro at her home in Walsenburg. Mrs. Nigro and Rosalyn McCain were talking together April 8, 1980. I was born in Dawson, New Mexico. Dawson is south of Raton, New Mexico. It is between Raton and Cimmaron. Now it is a ghost town, but previously it was a coal mining town. The Phelps-Dodge Corporation was the owner of the mine. Coal mining started in Da son in the 1900's. The coal mines closed down there in 1950. They say that a coal mining town had fifty years to survive. That's what did happen at Dawson. The town had a population of over 8,000 people at its height. I was born there and lived there for 19 years. Then I came to Walsenburg and married John. I had met him in Raton. His dad had an automobile dearership there. John was born and raised in Walsenburg. His dad had a bar and then a recreation parlor after prohibition. My dad also had a bar before prohibition. He went into the mines at the age of 54. He had a pool hall, etc. after prohibition. He went to work in the mines in 1929, and he died in 1936. My brother Bruno worked in the mines also. There were six kids at home when my father died. The oldest two children at home were 18 and 20, and they went to work at the mine. One went to work at the company store, and one went to work in the mine. There were nine children in my family. Ther were five boys and four girls. My oldest brother was killed in a mine accident at Cameron. My parents wer from the Turol. It used to be Austira, but now it is in Italy. My dad came here in 1905. His name was Serafino Bergamo, and my mother was named Anna Bergamo. He worked for the company. He was a bartend- er for them. When he first came here, he worked in the mine. Then his SOPHIA NIGRO (PAGE 2) partner was made manager of the saloon in Dawson. So he hired my Dad as the barkeeper. This was all for the mine company. My husband had a garage until the depression. During the depression he worked for the City and for the County. When we married, we moved to Walsenburg. In 1936 John opened a liquor store on Main Street, San Isabel Liquor. He had that package liquor store for 28 years, and then he retired. Now he enjoys golfing. It is a really nice sport. It is good exercise. and you get lots of fresh air. and you have good company and socialize alot there. Irma Menghini was a very good friend of mine. She really brought me out of my shell when I had my children. She was always very active. She worked at the drug store, etc. I wasn't active at all at that time. She convinced me to join the PTA and to join the Tabernacle Society, and I started doing church work. I did a lot of work with the PTA. They used to have soft ball teams for the young girls. I believe they have more activities for women now than they did in those days. They have volleyball teams, etc, now. I moved to Walsenburg in 1930. I had heard so much about Walsenburg being a dangerous place that I was afraid to come here. You heard so much about the strikes and murders that happened here. But after I came here to live. I realized that it was like any other place. The Wobblie Strike in 1928 was the last strike. Conditions were starting to get better. My dad died December 22, 1936. He had just gotten a job where he could get ahead. Walsenburg was just starting to decline when I came here. During the Depression we had enough to eat. I was expecting Lorraine, when Roosevelt SOPHIA NIGRO (PAGE 3) closed the bank. We had $40.00 saved to pay for her. The bank opened before she was born, and we could get our money out. Mama was in Dawson then with all of the children. We all had enough to eat. We gardened and we canned fruit. I remember that we bought a half a pig at 2¢ a pound. We would buy sugar by the 100 pound sack and flour by the 50 pound sack. We always had enough for bread, etc. For Easter we always have the dish from the Tyrol, from north Italy. It is palenta served with a good stew. Palenta is made with corn meal. It is shaped into a ball and served on a platter to be sliced. It is wonderful with a chicken stew. We also like it with sauer kraut and spareribs. We like to dig the little new dandelions in the sand when they are still white in the spring and make a good salad. In Italy they eat palenta daily in the place of bread. My husband's father always made his own wine. Especially during pro- hibition everybody made wine for their own use. He made his last batch of wine in 1938, and we finished his last bottle of wine last year. It was so good and so pretty. My mother married my father in Italy. Then she came to America on the Cunard line 2nd class. She had a beautiful trip until she got on the train. She didn't know any English, and she didn't know anybody on the train to help her out. Before she got to her destination, by luck, she met two men on the train who knew my dad, and they took her to dad. He was going to Raton to pick her up, but she arrived in Dawson with these two men who helped her so she found him. My brother was 16 months old when she came. I was born next, and I and all the others were born in Dawson. Women had their babies at home. My first two babies were born at home. SOPHIA NIGRO (PAGE 4) I remember when my first sister was born. The other children were sent away. I stayed home. I was so excited to have a new sister when the midwife came out with her. The last two daughters I bathed and curled their hair. I gave them their baths on Saturdays. I baked when I was real young. I learned to crochet and embroider. The ladies used to get together to do handwork. We baked 12 loaves of bread at a time. That was one batch, and I still have my mother's bread pans. We baked every four or five days. On saturday I would bake 12 pies and cakes. Sometimes mother had her brothers as boarders when they worked in the mines. Now people eat richer foods. They eat more prepared foods. We didn't have refrigerators. We had ice boxes. Farmers would butcher a calf and take it around to the mines. They also brought chickens and eggs around. A typical meal for us would consist of meat, bread, or palenta, potatoes and a salad. We didn't have much fruits. We usually had coffee and cheese or bread for breakfast. Sometines we would toast bread in the oven. Some- times we would have hash brown potatoes. We used to grow lettuce, radishes, cabbage, celery, beans, corn,parsley, rosemary, basil, and sage. I never heard of oregano until they came out with pizzas here. Papa used to make sauer kraut in a crock. We had sauer kraut with palenta. Mother didn't can much. We kept our kraut in a crock in the cellar. We also grew and kept a lot of carrots. We ate a lot of stews. Mainly it was vegetables, meat and fresh bread. John's family's specialty was raviolis. That was their favorite dish. I used to stay up until 3:00 making raviolis, and then I would get up early and visit and entertain company. We have really seen thr decline ot this town. There used to be fur- niture stores, hardware stores, drug stores and movie theaters. Now there SOPHIA NIGRO (PAGE 5} no place to sit and have a malted milk. We used to have two drug stores, and Barnes was across the street from where Fawks Drugs is now. The movies used to have two long features and a comedy for l5¢ for the matinee. Barnes Confectinery was in the J&L building. There used to be the Dissler and Kelmes shoe stores. Peter Roricks used to sell banana splits for 20¢. There used to be lots of dances. The ledges had dances. The Eagles, The Moose, The Elks, Odd Fellows all had dances. There was one Italian lodge called Dante Alleghieri. My husband belongs to the Moose, the Eagles, the Elks. They had picnics in the summers, and they had their dances here in the different lodges. There were Slavinian lodges. The different nationalities were all friends, and they stuck together real good. The ladies exchanged foods from their native countries. They would trade recipes back and forth. I like to make manicotti. The name means "little muff", and it is made like a crepe. You make a ravioli filling and roll it up in a crepe; you roll it up and bake. They are real good. I used to always have them frozen. I would just boil them up and all a sauce whenever people would drop in. It was so handy. Modern appliances are wonderful. The washing machine is the number one improvement. The refrigerator and freezer and iron are next, and a dish- washer is nice for a large family. To me Walsenburg is a paradise. You can walk to church and to town to shop. The climate is good. and the winters are not too bad.